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Some good news about #Mastodon, there has been a very significant bit of code added which will automatically fetch all the replies in a thread. This means everyone will be able to see a thread's whole conversation no matter which server they are on! 🥳

The code has just been "merged" which means it should become available in the next update to Mastodon, hopefully within the next few months.

(Those who want the technical details can see the Pull Request at github.com/mastodon/mastodon/p…)

(Via @rolle)

Als Antwort auf Fedi.Tips

I'm trying to understand...

Why would I not see all replies already with the current Mastodon version?
=>Some are not shown because they come from servers that are blocked by my home instance.
=>Some are not shown because they com from accounts that are blocked by me.
=>(Further reasons?)

I guess it is not the purpose of the update to circumvent measures like the above-mentioned blocks. So, what kind of replies do I currently not see and can be seen with the new version?

@rolle

Als Antwort auf Trötifant

I guess, that "further reasons" are the crucial point. I almost remember that there was something... I cannot get a grip of it. What am I missing?

@rolle

Als Antwort auf Trötifant

@Voka

At the moment, if there's a reply from an account that your server has not "noticed" then it may not be visible in the thread.

There's a whole list of scenarios where a server might notice an account or post:

fedi.tips/which-posts-and-acco…

TL:DR - To preserve resources, servers only show accounts and posts they have noticed. This keeps server costs low enough that anyone can start and run their own server, but has the side-effect of not showing everything from every server.

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Als Antwort auf Fedi.Tips

Thanks! I misunderstood that this discovery limit would only apply to my timeline.
Als Antwort auf Trötifant

@Voka From the linked pull request:

"Currently, instances only receive posts a) if someone on the instance follows the post author or follows someone who boosts a post, b) if someone explicitly searches for a post url, or c) the instance fetches it though a relay. This means that for most posts, someone on an instance that different from the OP of a thread only has a partial view of the replies".

So how replies are fetched isn't just determined by instance and user blocks, there's limitations to the current setup for how replies to a post get federated.

Als Antwort auf Iker

@igimenezblb

Thanks! I misunderstood that this discovery limit would only apply to my timeline.

@Iker
Als Antwort auf Fedi.Tips

That’s great news!

Does this also work in reverse? I sometimes stumble on replies but can not see the original post (have to jump to the original instance to see it)

Als Antwort auf Fedi.Tips

why is merged in airquotes? what did actually happen?
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Als Antwort auf yetzt

@yetzt
Yes it did actually happen! It's just in quotes because my account is aimed at a non-technical audience, and the rest of the sentence explains what merging means.
Als Antwort auf Fedi.Tips

i'm doubtful double quotes are a good marker for domain specific terminology when they have so many meanings.