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Seriously, I agree with @geerlingguy and I'll refuse to buy @internetofshit / #InternetOfShit devices.

There is no legitimate reason a #Dishwasher needs #Internet access or an #App.

  • You know what my #WashingMachine needs to start (or finish) at a certain time? Me knowing how many hours it'll be from now on till it has to start (and some 2nd grade math to add the time till the program finishes)... IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SHITTY CLOCK INSIDE!!!

Seriously, I'm just mad at this #Enshittification!

Kevin Karhan hat dies geteilt.

Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

Silicon Valley misinterpreted "make things more convenient to use so that we can spend our time on other things" as "we're too lazy to bother so we need it to be done for us, also we don't care we're just cattle."
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Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

Call me weird but I'll only get an #EV if I can charge it as fast as I can gas up my Corsa D 1.0 3-door and pay for it in cash (or #Monero if I can get Monero for cash w/o #KYC!) and not have all the "#eCall" #tracking bs in it!

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Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

Cars themselves are enshittification.

Cities built around them are cities built around wealth extraction by big box stores by big corporations.

The money poured into the infrastructure in the urban layout of a car centric design is wealth extraction.

Big box stores in the big car infrastructure that they are embedded in extra extract more wealth from the community than it ever generates. And big box stores destroy small business they destroy mom & pop and small and medium companies

Als Antwort auf GhostOnTheHalfShell

@GhostOnTheHalfShell Gladly I do #WorkFromHome >99% of the time so I'm not required to #commute and there's good, affordable #PublicTransport in #Germany (at least in the urban area I live in)...

  • That doesn't mean #CarCentrism is good - it's evidently shit and every car on the road is a failure of public transport!
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

The argument goes far beyond just a failure of public transportation. It goes to the heart of wealth inequality.

The car, centric urban design is a design of exploitation of wealth extraction. When the cost of a car centric design is audited, cities lose money to big box stores and two all the infrastructure spent on cars.

Residents, small businesses subsidize this wealth extraction. Communities finance their own subjugation with a car centric design. It is that bad.

Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

Why does 31% of my country need to overcompensate a mediocre life with an SUV. I'm flying through the air, raving, with an Opel Astra.
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Als Antwort auf sunsetdriver

@sunsetdriver I just think that selling #overpriced, #shitty. #ugly and outright #fat #cars that almost all #Millenials - including myself - can't afford will inevitable make a company fall flat on it's face for all the right reasons...

  • It's like as if I were to open up a "luxury electronics store" in Zeitz¹ and then complain that none of the locals want to buy a DGX Station A100 from me ...

¹ it's a decaying town in East Germany-

Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

Keep firing that atmospheric weapon.of mass destruction every time you move...

Compromise on charging time. You can take breaks. That part is fine.

Don't compromise on the surveillance.

Als Antwort auf Karl Heinz Häsliprinz

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Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

There currently aren't any electric cars on the market that do the job. Cargo bikes, yes, but cars are all surveillance nightmares. Not advocateing for Swasticars.

Only core point: Compromise on charging time. It's fine to wait 30 min every 250 km, especially as parking spots with low ampere chargers become more common.

Will need new models. Me, I want one that is electric and cybernetic, but NOT electronic.

However using gasoline is NOT the answer.

Als Antwort auf Karl Heinz Häsliprinz

That's why I said used as well.

  • OFC I wished for something else and I'd even consider DIY some methanol fuelcell thingy, but at a cost in the 5 digits for the fuel cell assembly alone that's just not practical.

#BEV|s ain't the answer - #PublicTransport is!

  • Meanwhile I'll have to make due with what I can afford & maintain!

As for small EVs: If it doesn't have a #CCS2 connector and I can't charge it full in 30min from 0 it's not practical and I'm pretty shure every charging station will throw me out if it takes several hours to recharge.

  • And those €200 adaptors will either be not permitted or get vandalized or stolen by passers-by...
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Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

Unfortunately, all new cars (regardless of how they are powered) are a privacy nightmare.

Maybe micro cars are an option for you. They aren't connected to the internet usually.

But if you have a car that works for you, why not keep it?
@KarlHeinzHasliP

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Als Antwort auf Tobias Denkinger

I will keep it simply because I can't really afford a new one and because it's already there and works fine!

  • If it was broken beyond repairability & being able to get it through tech inspection, that story would be different, but yeah...

As for smaller vehicles I do propose that for the (hopefully fewer and fewer) edge-cases where #PublicTransport just won't cut it, that we go #smol as in #PersonalLightVehicle and thus more #efficient!

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Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

@denki @KarlHeinzHasliP Personally, I think #Volkswagen should've taken the #1L or #L1, make it out of #Aluminium and #glassfiber or even fiber-reinforced #plastic instead of #CarbonFiber and actually #MassProduce it!

Instead of making a €111.000 shitpost that was limited to 250 units made and 200 sold

Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

@denki Got triggered by the part about needing to refuel super fast. That part of the original post is BS, happy with all the rest of your thinking.

Me, I love my ebike, able bodied as I am, that is all I really need. Once tried the citroen space tourer as a utility vehicle, if I actually needed one that would be decent, the new Kia utility vehicle also seems to cut it (not in terms of privacy though - probably would have to just cut out the internet connection for that)..

I've seen a bunch of the earlier version of this thing too - really like the concept. twike.com

Als Antwort auf Karl Heinz Häsliprinz

@KarlHeinzHasliP @denki Personally, I think that standardized #batteries that get swapped would've been the solution to the charging speed problem.

#BEV|s are a problem and the #EnergyDensity and #Charging problems are hard walls that can only be circumvented (i.e. swapping fluids at a #RedoxFlow-#Battery) or ignored (i.e. #Methanol #FuelCell)...

Solving the #EnergyProblem isn't a technological issue, but a political one (see #DESERTEC)...

Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

@KarlHeinzHasliP @denki and whilst cobustion is unsexy, we can all agree that a Trabant 601 or a Simson S51 have a lower envoirmental impact than a #Swasticar or electric #SUV simply because less deadweight needs to get moved around.

  • I also acknowledge the #Twike as a #PLV, because I define a #PersonalLightVehicle as a mode of weatherproof all-year useable mode of transportation that isn't a car!

(Cuz lets be honest most people won't invest into clothing to be able to use a motorcycle, scooter or even bicycle all year around in decent comfort, and if it's uncomfortaboe, noone will use it unless forced to!

Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

Als Antwort auf Karl Heinz Häsliprinz

@KarlHeinzHasliP @denki OFC having good #PublicTransport is the way to do it (and yes, #Germany should copy & paste what the #Netherlands do in term of Public Transport, #CyclingInfrastructure & #Accessibility!
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

@KarlHeinzHasliP @denki

OFC the even better thing would be to avoid drives as much as possible and install #FTTH / #Fiber into every home and let as many people work remotely as they can.

Not to mention the economies of scale that a (i.e. PICNIC) #Minitruck delivering food to dozens if not a hundred households in a single shift has compared to cars.

  • OFC their start/stop use-cases are more conducive and their mileage way lower than most cars, so they can easily get away with slow-charging after the shift ends.

As for #ConflictMinerals, just reducing overall consumption if we cannot use them is the way to go.

  • Which again means lesser and smaller vehicles!
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

which brings me back to my point that #CarManufacturers "#phat and #bloated" monstrosities need to die out for good


Call me weird but I'll only get an #EV if I can charge it as fast as I can gas up my Corsa D 1.0 3-door and pay for it in cash (or #Monero if I can get Monero for cash w/o #KYC!) and not have all the "#eCall" #tracking bs in it!


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Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

@denki Copy Switzerland on public transport and Netherlands on biking!

There is a Swiss legal requirement that you can leave any place in the country in the morning and reach any other place by night by public transport and I love it... But then, I also want intercontinental public transport... one can dream of belts and roads for people, not containers.

Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

The niche that would justify the cost of battery swapping is too small to have affordable cars with that technology. Having to stop for 20 to 30 minutes every 300km is just not that big of an inconvenience for the majority of people.

Cobalt and Lithium should be avoided in the future. Cobalt is already being phased out for "low"-cost cars. And let's not forget that fossil fuels are also conflict resources.
@KarlHeinzHasliP

Als Antwort auf Karl Heinz Häsliprinz

@KarlHeinzHasliP
The Twike is a very interesting design. The pedals are not very useful though: If you pedal like a professional (180W) for an hour you only get 2,5km of range.
@kkarhan
Als Antwort auf Tobias Denkinger

@denki According to their website, it gets you 10-20% of the energy: Wieviel Muskelkraft der Fahrer einsetzt, bleibt ihm überlassen. Ein durchschnittlich trainierter Fahrer kann durch das Pedalieren eine Leistung von 100 bis 200 W einbringen. Das entspricht bei einer Geschwindigkeit von 50 km/h etwa 10 bis 20 % des Gesamtenergiebedarfs. Der Pedalantrieb ist dazu gedacht, den Motor zu unterstützen, jedoch nicht als alleinige Antriebsquelle des TWIKE.
Als Antwort auf Karl Heinz Häsliprinz

@KarlHeinzHasliP @denki The main idea of the pedals is also to overcome initial inertia to get started.

Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

I believe the correct acronym is Stupid Useless Vehicle :P

Most of the time I don't have to pay anything to charge my EV, and it doesn't matter how long it takes to charge, because it's sitting in my garage. I actually love not needing to burn fossil fuels or put toxic fumes into the air to go places.

(I catch the bus to work though, because creating traffic and sitting in it sucks)

Als Antwort auf Bennolius 😷⚡

@carbsrule_en granted, not everyone has that privilegue.

  • charging ain't free here - otherwise everyone would do it and setup battery storage to cut down power bills...
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

well, it's not typically free here either (although there are lots of free slow chargers in my vicinity). But I have solar panels and export electricity, so there's plenty for the car. We bought the panels in 2010 and they paid for themselves years ago.
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Kevin Karhan

@FlanFlinger no.

Unless you can find me a car that seats me comfortably, costs < €4k (used or new) to buy and < € 100 in tax per year in Germany.

  • Not to mention I rarely exceed 1000km a month, often barely go over 500km and EVs are a pain in the ass to repair or service.

And with car I mean EC Vehicle Class M1.

  • A Piaggio Ape 50 or anything that isn't highway legal or gets honked by trucks for being slow isn't gonna cut it.
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

It blows my mind that the UK base-spec version (the Series 2) has a complete pushbutton front panel and LED status indicators.

ao.com/product/sms26aw08g-bosc…

The WiFi version is an extra £50 (or £100 off sale), and ... still has a full front panel. ao.com/product/sms2hvw67g-bosc…

Als Antwort auf Phil M0OFX

@philpem maybe because #consumers in the #UK (if not #Europe and #EU as well) are just not willing to accept that level of #Enshittification and would instantly have it picked up and demand a refund instantly!
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

I'm not so sure they would have. You underestimate how passive Brits can be.
Als Antwort auf Phil M0OFX

@philpem true, true...

We still don't see people violently demand to #undo the #Brexit for that matter...

Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

They're angrily responding to Yougov polls while the government brazenly ignores them.
Als Antwort auf Phil M0OFX

@philpem Moral of the story: Never make a tiny majority able to fuck over everyone.
Als Antwort auf Kevin Karhan

I can only see one case where internet connection of a appliance would be reasonable. Having a 24/7 uptime guarantee where a replacement is installed with the dirty dishes transferred neatly to the new unit before the cycle completes in the event of a detected failure for a leased unit with a flat rate including all instant repairs.

In any other case I would much rather own the unit and have it be low maintenance with user (or competent neighbour if I am too lazy) replaceable wearing parts.

Als Antwort auf KalleMP

OFC, for any "#aaS" setup that may be valid.

  • And in #business cases, where there's a "pay per use" payment structure (i.e. expensive machinery like cranes in #construction get rented per machine runtime & availability onsite per hour and some leased CNC machines) it does make sense to collect telemetry so technicians (who may be onsite or not) get alerted instantly and show up with the correct tooling and parts.

As for #dishwasher|s, even the industrial-grade ones used in canteens of universities or chemical laboratories ain't in such setups:

  • They just have 1-2 "warm spares" hooked up and ready to take over if one machine fails, and they just have the cleaners and janitor regularly maintain them.
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